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Author:  xem [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:44 am ]
Post subject:  About the disappearing "margin-top" known issue on IE6 & IE7


Author:  jason [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: About the disappearing "margin-top" known issue on IE6 &


Author:  xem [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: About the disappearing "margin-top" known issue on IE6 &


Author:  jason [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: About the disappearing "margin-top" known issue on IE6 &


Author:  xem [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: About the disappearing "margin-top" known issue on IE6 &

oh, right, I missed these points... and I didn't consider everything... so finally, that IE6-IE7 bug is a very tough thing! :?

So, maybe, doing nothing and letting people write their CSS correctly would be better...? :lol:

Damn old IEs.

I didn't get the "insert a div *after* applying PIE" (I mean, I don't get why that would work), but if you say it works, fine, i'd like to see that!

Thanks for your answers.

Author:  AndyE [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: About the disappearing "margin-top" known issue on IE6 &


Author:  xem [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: About the disappearing "margin-top" known issue on IE6 &

only bad people use negative margins!

... just kidding.

I recommend to avoid negative margins as IE6 hides anything of your element that gets out of the element's container.

Use position relative + negative top/left instead.

Author:  andipandi [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: About the disappearing "margin-top" known issue on IE6 &

FWIW, the solution described above:

<!--[if lt IE 8]><div style="height:0px; margin-bottom: 20px;"></div><![endif]-->

works for me. I had a container and the floated content within the container was popping up out of the container, UNTIL I either moused over the box (ie6) or resized the window (ie7) at which it would pop back down where it was supposed to be. Driving me crazy. I messed with clear, overflow,a floats, position, everything... then I realized that when I shut off PIE, everything was fine, so it had to be a PIE issue. Then I scoured this site looking for a fix and trying to change the hasLayout/zoom without success.

You should add this fix to the FAQ!

Author:  xem [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: About the disappearing "margin-top" known issue on IE6 &

Hi!

It's been quite a while, but I didn't forget this problem and am still thinking of a solution and a full test case as Jason asked me to do.

But in parallel, I'd like to ask Jason if he knew why this problem is presend with PIE, but it's not present in libraries such as .

Here's what I think:

If you inspect its on IE, you'll see that DD_roundies, like PIE, inserts an element (<ignore>) before the target element. But that <ignore> element is NOT in position: absolute. Its position isn't even set. Only its children (<shape>) are in position: absolute. The <ignore> element only has computed "left" and "top" values relative to its parent.

As a result, DD_roundies is compatible with margin-top on IE < 8, and it's also compatible with resizing / repositionning of the target element.

Why couldn't PIE do the same thing, when it inserts border-radius/background/box-shadow-related elements in the DOM ?

Thanks!

Author:  jason [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: About the disappearing "margin-top" known issue on IE6 &

Interesting thought, I'll give it a look.

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